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Monta Ellis Versus Stephen Curry, The Twitter Debates

With the trade deadline coming close, Golden State Warriors beat writer Marcus Thompson II and San Jose Mercury Sports contributor Tim Kawakami chat with Warriors fans over the fate of their backcourt conundrum. From the looks of it, both of them are seem to think that replacing Monta Ellis may be easier than trying to replace Curry. And both Thompson II and Kawakami are in agreement that what they realistically think they could get in return for Curry if they’re expecting to get that dominant big man they’ve always wanted.

Here’s what they Thompson II and Kawakami had to Tweet about today:

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@timkawakami Problem is, you can trade a SG for any position. Do you trade a PG for anything but a big?

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He has really good vision. Handles well in traffic. He is inexperienced and lacking athletically @HowardKushlan

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He must play PG. Doesn’t have size/athleticism for combo RT @timkawakami: But do you really consider Curry a PG? his future is as combo 1/2.

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Point guard is the most difficult position on the court. You can’t just put anybody at PG. Those dudes are rare

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That is why when you get one that is good, especially one with a special talent, you don’t just walk away from it because of the flaws

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I said the same things when the Warriors had Baron. You just don’t walk away from good point guards. Good franchises don’t, anyway

So the battle rages on! But Thompson II seems to think that trading Curry might set the Warriors back. There was an additional Tweet by Thompson II about how all young point guards take time to develop (Jrue Holiday, Darren Collison, and Brandon Jennings) with the exception being Chris Paul. But anyway, Thompson, to me, brings up a good point, no pun intended, which I will extrapolate on.

If you trade Curry, who’s going to bring the ball up court. Or rather, who has the ability, in pressure situations, to bring the ball up court without getting picked? During the Don Nelson and Baron Davis years, Davis was called upon to facilitate a huge portion of the offense because, honestly, no one else had the handles or court vision to do what he did. Before that, the Warriors hadn’t had a point guard with that ability to lead a team since Tim Hardaway. Curry isn’t an elite point guard by any means, yet. But finding someone with his skills does seem pretty difficult to duplicate considering what the market is out there for point guards when we can’t even get a decent back-up.

With that said, be careful what you wish for.

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Monta Ellis Willing To Take Back Seat To Stephen Curry?

In the last five games, amidst the most All-Star reserve talk ever, Monta Ellis shot exactly 33% while averaging a paltry 18 points per game. For most shooting guards, 18 points a game is a fair clip. But when you’ve been anointed the face of the franchise by you’re team owner and putting up shots at a rate that only Andray Blatche would duplicate, you’re struggling.

In the midst of this four-game losing streak, which can’t be solely be attributed to Monta Ellis’ poor play, the other guard, Stephen Curry has been playing like we all expected him to. In the complete opposite fashion, Curry is shooting better than 50% and scoring 24 points a game. In fact, one could go so far as to say that yesterday’s game against the Utah Jazz allowed us to see how ball movement could possibly improve with Curry at the helm. Five Warriors were in double figures last night and you hadn’t seen this many Warriors touch AND shoot the ball since possibly late last season when Curry officially went bananas on the NBA scene.

Perhaps it's too early to read much into this given how their meltdown versus the Bobcats was a collective issue. But Coach Keith Smart thinks Monta Ellis’ stinker last night (2 points on 1 of 9 shooting) was a sign of maturation:

“That’s the growth of him,” Smart said. “Not trying to force the issue, to make it happen. He allowed himself to be a decoy because he’s still a threat.”

But was it really a wily veteran in Raja Bell that caused Monta’s frustrations? As the ESPN broadcast reported, Monta’s scoreless first half hasn’t happened since 2006.

Is Monta’s deferral reflective of more signs to come or perhaps a happy compromise? Tim Kawakami discusses what he says is the issue is with a “duplicative” scoring backcourt:

Ellis played more than 31 minutes, took 9 shots, missed 8 of them, but did have 5 assists and 4 rebounds and looked to be playing so pretty solid defense.

But my general point stands: You only usually need ONE guard to score heavy points, and if that guy doesn’t play much defense, you very much need the other guard to play D and do the support stuff.

When you have TWO offensive-minded guards, it’s a little duplicative–you’re probably going to get a lot of those points anyway, as long as you have one premier perimeter scorer.

It’s difficult to read what’s happening with Monta, but body language suggests he’s unhappy about something. Not normally a talkative guy on the court anyway, Monta’s attitude has changed recently, showing him smiling after hitting game-winners. Slapping fives with teammates after good plays. Pumping a fist Kobe Bryant-style when Curry nails an open three. But last night we saw Monta playing tough defense, doing what he had to do, and not looking very happy about it. For huge stretches, Monta didn’t touch the ball but the Warriors were scoring. He seemed to force the issue a bit on a few drives and was not in the congratulatory mood with his teammates. He just didn’t seem connected, to say the least.

Whether it is something to worry about, it’s still unclear. And maybe Monta Ellis will sacrifice shots to be THAT dude that plays defense on a defenseless starting five. But with the trade deadline looming and Lacob wanting to score himself a superstar, perhaps some moves will eventually settle this 1.5 year debate of who is the future of this franchise going forward.

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No Deron Williams and Mehmet Okur, Plenty Of Stephen Curry, Warriors Snap Losing Streak Against Jazz

The Utah Jazz had no Deron Williams and no Mehmet Okur, and with Paul Millsap and Al Jefferson struggling to produce, an underwhelming performance at Oracle Arena seemed inevitable. The Golden State Warriors pulled away in the third quarter and cruised to an uncharacteristically comfortable victory, snapping their three game losing streak at home with a 96-81 victory; Utah has now lost seven of their last eight games and are starting to find themselves slip out of the top of the conference.

Stephen Curry led the Warriors with 27 points, seven assists and six rebounds, Dorell Wright chipped in with 16 points; Reggie Williams had 15 points, and David Lee had 14 points and 5 rebounds. Monta Ellis was uncharacteristically quiet, not scoring a single point in the first half, but the Warriors didn’t need his services offensively tonight to beat the Jazz; it was his defense that surprisingly set the tone and kept Golden State on task, as they led by double digits for most of the fourth quarter.

For more from the Warriors perspective, go to Golden State of Mind; for more from the Jazz perspective, check out SLC Dunk.

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Warriors vs. Jazz: Golden State Looks To Get Back On Winning Track

(Sports Network) – Utah managed to halt its longest losing streak of the season without Deron Williams. Now, the Jazz will hope to start their latest winning streak in Oakland against the reeling Golden State Warriors with or without their star guard. Williams, who is struggling with a hyperextended right wrist, will be a game- time decision tonight as Utah attempts to halt a five-game road slide.

With Williams on the sidelines Friday Paul Millsap notched 30 points, Andrei Kirilenko scored a season-high 27 and the Jazz snapped a six-game skid with a 108-100 victory over the Minnesota Timberwolves at EnergySolutions Arena. Millsap, despite a bruised thumb, added eight rebounds and a season-high six steals for Utah, which got 22 points from C.J. Miles in a reserve role. Earl Watson had 10 points and a season-high 13 assists in place of Williams.

“When you’ve lost six straight, the most important thing is we won the game. I thought our guys really played hard,” said Utah head coach Jerry Sloan.

The Warriors, meanwhile, fell to 0-3 on a season-long eight-game homestand on Friday when Charlotte’s Stephen Jackson scored 31 points, including a three-pointer with 1.9 seconds remaining to force overtime, as the Bobcats rallied to beat Golden State, 121-113. Stephen Curry had 27 points to pace the Warriors, who have dropped four in a row overall. Monta Ellis scored 21 points on 6-of-24 shooting, while Dorell Wright also finished with 21 points in the loss.

“We had a chance to win the game and we didn’t,” Curry said. “It’s really frustrating when we play hard. It’s not like our effort was the reason we lost. We just had lapses where we couldn’t rebound, gave up too many baskets down low and we let them back in the game.”

Utah has won four of its past five meetings with Golden State.

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Warriors vs. Bobcats: Golden State Blows Late Lead In Fourth Straight Loss

Oakland, CA (Sports Network) – Stephen Jackson scored 31 points, including a three-pointer with 1.9 seconds remaining to force overtime, as the Charlotte Bobcats rallied to beat the Golden State Warriors, 121-113, at Oracle Arena. D.J. Augustin posted 27 points and 12 assists for the Bobcats, who improved to 3-0 on their six-game road trip. Boris Diaw and Nazr Mohammed both netted 13 points for Charlotte, which overcame a 16-point deficit late in the third quarter.

Stephen Curry had 27 points to pace the Warriors, who have dropped four in a row. Monta Ellis scored 21 points on 6-of-24 shooting, while Dorell Wright also finished with 21 points in the loss. Ellis knocked down a trey to give Golden State a seemingly comfortable 76-60 lead with 2:37 left in the third quarter. Charlotte ended the frame on an 11-0 run and closed to within 83-82 on a pair of Gerald Henderson free throws midway through the fourth quarter.

A thunderous dunk by Wright put the Warriors up 100-95 with 27.8 seconds remaining, but the Bobcats refused to go away. Jackson was fouled behind the arc and made all three attempts from the charity stripe. After Ellis made 1-of-2 free throws, Gerald Wallace missed a three-pointer at the other end. Augustin, though, secured the offensive rebound and dished to Jackson, who sank his long-range jumper near the end of regulation.

Jackson buried a turnaround jumper to begin the extra frame, giving Charlotte its first lead since early in the first quarter. With the teams knotted at 105-105, Augustin hit a pullup jumper to ignite a 7-0 burst. Golden State trimmed its deficit to four on two occasions, the last coming at 117-113 with 38.6 seconds left, but Augustin converted four free throws to seal the win.

“We had a chance to win the game and we didn’t,” Curry said. “It’s really frustrating when we play hard. It’s not like our effort was the reason we lost. We just had lapses where we couldn’t rebound, gave up too many baskets down low and we let them back in the game.”

The Warriors led 28-22 after the opening 12 minutes and maintained their six- point advantage at halftime.

Charlotte has won five of its last six games overall…The Warriors fell to 0-3 on their eight-game homestand…The Bobcats have won three straight in Oakland.

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Warriors vs. Bobcats: Golden State Looks To Get Back On Winning Track

(Sports Network) – The Charlotte Bobcats will try to stay perfect on their six-game road trip when they visit the Golden State Warriors tonight at Oracle Arena. The Bobcats have beaten Sacramento and Phoenix so far on the trek and are coming off Wednesday’s 114-107 victory over the Suns in the desert. Stephen Jackson had 23 points and seven rebounds, Gerald Wallace supplied 22 points and 10 boards and Boris Diaw collected 18 points, six rebounds and five assists for Charlotte, winners in eight of its last 12 games.

Head coach Paul Silas improved to 10-6 since taking over for Larry Brown in late December. Charlotte was 9-19 over the season’s first 28 games.

“I think his (head coach Paul Silas) demeanor, his style, the way he coaches, he always tells us everything is alright,” Wallace said. “I think the calmer the coaches are, that makes us out on the court calmer. We didn’t panic. They made some shots but we stuck to our principles and we were able to come out with a win tonight.”

Charlotte will also visit the Clippers, Jazz and Pistons, and is 7-14 away from Time Warner Cable Arena this season. It has won three straight as the visitor. Golden State has lost three in a row since winning four straight and fell to 0-2 on an eight-game homestand with Wednesday’s 112-103 setback versus the New Orleans Hornets in Oakland.

Monta Ellis and Dorell Wright scored 26 and 25 points, respectively, for the Warriors, who are 13-9 at home and got 20 points and six assists from Stephen Curry. David Lee added 16 points and 10 boards in defeat.

“They came out ready to play and they out worked us in the first quarter,” Wright said. “I think they started out 14 of 18 and you are not going to win games when a team is shooting like that. We were careless with the ball and missed some key shots. But, they are a good team and there is a reason they in the midst of 10-game winning streak.”

The Warriors are slated to host Utah, Milwaukee, Chicago, Phoenix and Denver on the current residency. Golden State beat Charlotte, 96-95, in the first meeting of the season between the teams on Dec. 31 at Time Warner Cable Arena. Ellis’ layup with 1:20 remaining proved to be the difference and he ended with 25 points and five assists. Wright had 17 points in that one.

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David Lee, Monta Ellis, Keith Smart: Frustrations Mounting, Sing-a-longs Over?

The Warriors lost their third in a row — at home — and a red-hot New Orleans Hornets team shot a ridiculous (even for the NBA) 62% from the field. In what is supposed to be the time where the Warriors play catch-up and make a strong push to get into a final playoff spot, you would have thought after yesterday’s game you were watching the NBA All-Star Game by how poorly the Warriors defended. CSN Bay Area’s Matt Steinmetz reads into locker room body language after last night’s game, suggesting that problems are possibly arise:

You could see it in coach Keith Smart, who went out of his way to bring up the issues of "toughness" and "effort" even though he wasn’t asked about those things.

You could see it in David Lee, who seemed to purposely measure his words through gritted teeth. And you could see it in a half-dozen or so other players, most of whom were slumped in a chairs by their lockers.

Uh oh. Just a few days ago, media reported that Monta Ellis was leading the rest of the locker room as if a glee-club of only rap music. But what now? There will always be ups and downs with this Warriors squad as we’ve witnessed all season. But with Lacob seemingly having everyone on a short leash, you can bet he wants to avoid starting his tenure the same way that former Chris Cohan experienced his. That being, Lacob doesn’t want a mutiny or a civil war amongst its players.

It’s too early to say what Lacob’s going to do, but given the problematic effort and execution, what do you want Lacob to do?

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Warriors Cannot Stop David West, Trevor Ariza, Chris Paul And The Hornets

For more from a Warriors perspective, head over to Golden State of Mind.

Oakland, CA (Sports Network) - David West's 22 points led a balanced attack in New Orleans' 112-103 victory over Golden State at ORACLE Arena.

Trevor Ariza notched 19 points and seven rebounds, while Chris Paul scored 18 and dished out 17 assists for the Hornets, who have won 10 straight games. The last time the franchise won 10 straight overall was during the 1997-98 campaign.

Emeka Okafor and Marco Belinelli had 13 and 11 points, respectively, for the victors.

Monta Ellis recorded 26 points and five assists and Dorell Wright notched 25 points for the Warriors, who have lost three in the row. Stephen Curry posted 20 points and six assists and David Lee added 16 points and 10 boards.

The Hornets shot 65.2 percent during the first quarter to jump out to a 34-21 lead. They ended the night hitting a season-high 62.2 percent of their shots en route to a season-high 112 points.

Golden State was able to cut the lead down to three with 6:33 left to play in the opening half from Wright's drive and finger roll. But New Orleans built back a sizable lead and took 61-49 edge at halftime.

The visitors' edge was cut to four in the third quarter thanks to an 8-0 Warriors' run capped by Curry's long two-pointer with 8:35 remaining to make it 65-61. Yet again, the Hornets grew the lead to a comfortable 17 points, 93-76, heading into the final frame.

New Orleans cruised in the fourth quarter with the margin dipping under double digits with only 12 ticks left.

The Hornets improved to 12-11 away from the Big Easy this season...New Orleans made a season-high 46 field goals...Golden State will continue an eight-game homestand with a Friday matchup against Charlotte...The Hornets will travel to Sacramento on Saturday then Phoenix on Sunday to round a out a three-game western road trip.

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Warriors vs. Hornets: Golden State Looks To Even Up Current Homestand

(Sports Network) – The New Orleans Hornets will take their nine-game winning streak to the road when they begin a three-game western road trip tonight against the Golden State Warriors at Oracle Arena. The Hornets will also visit the Kings and Suns on the trek and are 11-11 away from the Big Easy this season. They are coming off Monday’s exciting 91-89 win over the Oklahoma City Thunder, as David West buried the game-winning shot with five-tenths of a second remaining to keep New Orleans rolling.

West had 20 points and Chris Paul finished with 24 and nine assists for New Orleans, which has won 14 of 18 games and got 11 points, nine rebounds and four blocks from Emeka Okafor in the win.

“We started off the game in a fashion that we didn’t like,” Hornets coach Monty Williams said. “We were giving up easy baskets, giving up threes, but we just felt like if we got a few stops it would change the way they played the game.”

New Orleans has won four in a row on the road and hasn’t won 10 straight overall since the 1997-98 campaign. Golden State has lost two in a row since a four-game winning streak and will continue an eight-game homestand Wednesday night.

The Warriors opened the residency with a 113-102 loss versus San Antonio, as David Lee led all scorers with 31 points and 12 rebounds. Monta Ellis posted 25 points and Dorell Wright added 18 points, nine assists and seven rebounds for the Warriors, who are in the midst of playing 13 of 14 games in Oakland.

“I thought we could’ve contested their shots a little bit more,” said Golden State head coach Keith Smart. “But those guys are never in a hurry, so they’re very patient and they know how to engage a help defender just enough to get a guy open and they know where everybody is going to be at all times.”

Smart’s club will also host Charlotte, Utah, Milwaukee, Chicago, Phoenix and Denver on the residency, and is 13-8 at home this season. Warriors guard Stephen Curry is questionable for tonight with a sprained right ankle and posted 14 points against the Spurs. Golden State defeated New Orleans, 110-103, on Jan. 5 this season in the Big Easy, but the Hornets have won six of the last 10 meetings between the teams.

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Stephen Curry In Need Of More Offensive Help?

As of late, Stephen Curry’s game has been scrutinized to death by all kinds of sports analysts and wannabe sports analysts (like myself). Whether it’s his defense, his turnovers, Coach Keith Smart’s usage of him, or his hot and cold shooting, Curry’s game just hasn’t been like it was last season. When Joe Lacob suggested that everyone, including Curry, was tradeble if for the right superstar, it seemed to create a wave of fear that the Warriors were going the ways of the past in abandoning or not properly developing their potentially great players.

But in defensive of Curry are we beginning to go the route of Mike Dunleavy like excuses? I love CSN Bay Area’s Matt Steinmetz for his honest opinion of the Warriors shortcomings. I dig the fact that there is no local favoritism or celebratory stories, which you might see in other areas. But Steinmetz recently suggested that acquiring a low-post player would help Curry’s game by emphasizing his strengths (shooting), which would then allow him to do what he does best:

A low-post player would likely impact Curry’s game more for the better than any other player on the team. Guarantee you a low-post player would end the talk of trading Curry, too.

First off, Curry would probably get about a half-dozen more spot-up attempts per game, with a good percentage of them coming from behind the 3-point line. The outside shot is the best and most effective part of Curry’s arsenal.

That would give Curry an ideal opportunity to penetrate and one that would offer him a better environment to succeed in than what he has now. With an over-committing defender, Curry would have an opportunity to play 5-on-4 after he got chased off the 3-point line.

What that means is Curry wouldn’t have to be wearing a defensive player – or be accompanied by one into the lane – while trying to get to the basket. That’s the case most of the time now.

Well, Steinmetz highlights the glaring hole the Warriors have tried to fill for over a decade and a half. But the problem is they just committed mega-millions to David Lee, who is solid but not necessarily a person that commands double-teams in the paint. The next best post-player would probably be Monta Ellis. No joke.

Acquiring a low-post player for the sake of helping the team is a great idea. David West supposedly plans to opt-out of his current contract and could be had for about $10 million. I could see him being a great fit for the Warriors, if the Warriors could find a way to free up some cash.

But Steinmetz’s suggestion feels like a strange apologia for Curry’s problems, reminiscent of how Mike Dunleavy Jr. fans and Mike Dunleavy Jr. himself made excuses about how the coach and the system wasn’t utilizing his talents properly. I’m not suggesting that Steinmetz’s comment isn’t without merit. It surely is. But with the the San Francisco Bay Area not exactly a hot destination for free agents and being cash-strapped with huge financial commitments to David Lee and more, finding a big man who can command double-teams feels like a pipe-dream.

Curry seems like a rhythm shooter and player. And more often than not his command of the offense or ball is what seems to get him into that rhythm, not necessarily just wide-open shots (though that I’m sure would absolutely help). Curry has shown us he’s not the new trend of big guards barreling down the lane, but a savvy player that can get his shot off, especially when he’s not pressing, which he clearly looks to be. As it is now, the ball rotation seems to decentralize the idea of a traditional drive and dish or pick and roll. Perhaps this is Curry’s struggle?

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Stephen Curry Tweaks Ankle Again

From CSN Bay Area’s Matt Steinmetz Twitter:

Stephen Curry sustained mild right ankle sprain at practice. Getting treatment. Status to be determined for Wednesday vs. Hornets.

Uh oh. This couldn’t be worse timing as the Warriors hit the roughest stretch of their home stand. Or is it?

Injuries are costly and the Warriors are already without Louis Amundson. And Monta Ellis already has a bum ankle … or so we thought? But to what extent will Reggie Williams, a bigger and quicker body on defense, help the Warriors? If Curry doesn’t play and Williams is in fact getting more comfortable firing away on offense, then who’s to say that this might not be such a bad thing?

I’m not trying to instigate that Curry is trade-able as Lacob had suggested (if for the right price). But will inserting Williams in the starting line-up be a better match-up, especially in the next few days versus bigger guards in Chris Paul, Chauncey Billups, Derrick Rose, Arron Afflalo, just to name a few?

But I hope that we don’t end up seeing more Charlie Bell.

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Golden State Warriors: Monta Ellis Bumps Jeezy, But All Is Well In Oakland?

The Warriors’ depression was not destined to last. With Lee back, Williams and Radmanovic producing off the bench, and potential All-Star Monta Ellis playing freer in a familiar system, the Warriors got rolling again, winning nearly two-thirds of their games since Radmanovic’s clutch three.

To make sure everybody knew it was okay to party again, Ellis dusted off the long-dormant locker room stereo system, blasting out songs by Young Jeezy and Rick Ross before every game. Nearly every player knows the words, and several have been seen lip syncing in near unison from their lockers as they get dressed.

SLAMOnline Contributor Irv Soonachan paints a very pretty picture of the Warriors current love-fest. Seeing a bunch of grown men sing Jeezy and Ricky Rose tracks sounds like it came straight out of the Disney film “Remember the Titans.”

Sonnachan captures the struggles the Warriors players faced learning Coach Keith Smart’s new offense and the recent up-tick in play by various players as Smart has made “Smart” adjustments. Players like Dorell Wright, Vladimir Radmanovic, and even Reggie Williams, who many thought would be instant offense off the bench like Vinnie “The Microwave” Johnson, have all finally seemed to find their offense role and skills, again, or for the first time.

But is there really anything to be happy about? The Warriors lost at home against the San Antonio Spurs and in the next few days face a bevvy of playoff bound teams, such as the Denver Nuggets, the New Orleans Hornets, and the Chicago Bulls. The Warriors have been good at home against mediocre talent and home might not be where the heart is in a few weeks. Acie Law, as told through Soonachan, offers a strange premonition:

“A lot of people try not to let it, but it feeds into your lifestyle,” said point guard Acie Law. “You can get depressed when you’re not successful but you know you’re capable of being successful.”

And if the losses do start piling up and they certainly can if you’re the Warriors, what kind of tune will the Warriors be singing then? Bill Wither’s “Ain’t No Sunshine” perhaps?

In a similar post by Zach Smith, Yahoo! Sports contributor, the Warriors exciting play and relatively close loss to the Spurs should be considered an ‘improvement.’

There are good losses, and there are bad losses, and playing tough against the team with the best record in the league is no easy task. I’ve seen games in the past where this would have easily turned into a 20-point rout, so the W’s should definitely be commended for keeping things competitive.

I don’t think you’ll find many people will agree with Smith here. A loss is a loss no matter how you want to talk about it and last night’s Spurs made glaringly obvious some of the defensive issues they are having. David Lee may have had an amazing offensive night, but why did he still have a +/- of -9? And worse yet, Biedrins was a disastrous -18. Is there much to be singing about here? Even from a fan perspective?

It’s hard for me not to worry that this team will self-destruct again and they have in the past. Granted, there is new energy in the building but Soonachan, in my opinion, exposes what maybe a generational shift between those of the Chris Cohan/Don Nelson regime and the new players that perhaps is where the Warriors would want to go in the future:

Smart had hoped that the Warriors’ bevy of new players would speed the team’s adjustment, but in truth many of Nelson’s players remained, including regulars Monta Ellis, Stephen Curry, Reggie Williams, and Andris Biedrins, and to varying degrees they were all struggling to learn new skills. Over the course of the season Smart had already had to simplify his schemes.

With that said, I wonder to what extent this roster will change in the next few months or over the off-season? With Lacob wanting to have his hand in decision making, can we expect this love-fest to continue or will people be singing different songs elsewhere?

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